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15th April 2009, 17:59
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The PAK-FA Saga Episode VIII
Come on PAK-FA, don't be shy, oochi-koochi-koo!!
 Oh and ridiculous posts such as the following will be severely frowned upon!! You have been warned!!
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15th April 2009, 20:20
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I am sure they would name that the Raptorski.
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15th April 2009, 20:24
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Yawn
More fanboy speculaton. Show me a prototype taking off for it's initial flight and I will believe it. Until then I believe none of this fanboy hype.
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15th April 2009, 20:38
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15th April 2009, 20:39
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The design is fanboy hype. But PAK FA is real.
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15th April 2009, 20:48
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So when do the Experts say is the tentative date of first flight or roll out ???
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16th April 2009, 03:18
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raptor-iski or yf 23-iski or both-iski |
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16th April 2009, 05:21
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18th April 2009, 22:06
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Market Trends Running Contrary to Russian Position in 5th Gen Fighter
(Source: Forecast International; issued April 15, 2009) NEWTOWN, Conn. --- Russia's fifth-generation fighter, known as the PAKFA (Advanced Tactical Aviation Aircraft), has emerged as a key tool of the Russian aerospace and defense industry even before the aircraft has completed its first flight. Rosoboronexport has aggressively pitched component production partnerships to a number of Russia's largest arms markets in order to garner risk/cost-sharing agreements and insure continued Russian market access. However, with the PAKFA program under increasing tension and the West's major aerospace firms seeking to shore up additional orders for soon to be closed fourth-generation aircraft production lines, Russia faces the prospect of declining presence in the world's most high sought after arms markets. On April 13, various Russian and Brazilian press sources reported that Russia had offered Brazil the chance to opt into the PAFKA program as a component producer if it would defer placing orders with western aerospace firms and instead place firm orders for the untested PAKFA. This development follows reports that Russian aircraft, including the Su-35 and Su-34 were excluded from the Brazilian Air Force's (FAB) upcoming fighter tender. The FAB instead opted to select from proven fourth-generation fighters: the Boeing F-18C/D, Dassault Rafale, and Saab Gripen. Russia has offered similar arrangements to India and China. Only India has signed onto the PAKFA program in exchange for considerable technology transfer and industry offset contract provisions. The previous Russian offer to Chinese has since been unofficially rescinded following further allegations of Chinese copyright infringements on previous Russian fighter aircraft imports. Faced with the considerable research & development costs associated with developing a new, advanced fighter platform, Russia is seeking to both distribute costs and ensure that a viable export market will exist for the PAKFA. The prime contractor on the PAKFA, Sukhoi, is reported to have already invested as much as $115 million in company capital into the program. In order to recoup such investment, which represent a small portion of total sunk costs, and to bring the per unit cost of the PAKFA down to a level that will be affordable to the Russian Air Force, Rosoboronexport is aggressively seeking partners who will guarantee orders. Several factors are working against the Rosoboronexport's attempts replicate the international cost/production-sharing development model implemented for the F-35, which is expected to become the dominant fighter in the fifth-generation market. The first is the unproven status of the PAKFA. Unlike established fourth-generation fighters, the PAKFA remains untested and thus represents a major risk for potential clients. The PAKFA's initial flight has already been pushed back to late 2009. While the PAKFA may be technically superior to western fourth-generation aircraft and may or may not (depending on the accuracy of Russian aerospace industry official statements) be equivalent to western fifth-generation fighters, its timeline for delivery its far behind its western competitors. Deliveries of the PAKFA are not anticipated to begin until 2017. Finally, as production of the Eurofighter Typhoon and Lockheed Martin F-35 ramp up, the western aerospace firms currently producing advanced variants of fourth-generation aircraft are likely to push hard to gain additional order to extend production lines. That Brazil opted for established western-built fourth-generation aircraft over a chance to participate in the PAKFA program does note bode well for Russia's chance to gain share in the fifth-generation fighter market. -ends- http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...n-fighter.html |
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18th April 2009, 22:56
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19th April 2009, 00:06
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20th April 2009, 19:59
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Hello from Mother-Russia!!!
Some new pictures on our forum: http://www.paralay.iboards.ru/viewto...=449&start=330 http://www.paralay.iboards.ru/viewto...sd=a&start=510 My nickname - Летун(Letun). Quote:
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21st April 2009, 11:35
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Шутку про скутер не понял. Пиши прямо, без выкрутасов.
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21st April 2009, 12:21
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Is it not in the forum guidelines to post in English
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21st April 2009, 13:29
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21st April 2009, 15:51
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22nd April 2009, 04:59
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Fifth-generation fighter to be developed in joint project
MOSCOW. (Ilya Kramnik, RIA Novosti military commentator) - The development of the fifth-generation jet fighter is one of the most widely discussed issues in Russia's military. What's more, with its potential involvement in developing the jet fighter, India, one of Russia's long-standing partners in military technical cooperation, confirms its interest in Russia's future project. The new jet fighter is being developed under the PAK FA (Prospective (promising) Aircraft System of the Frontline Aviation) program to replace fourth-generation models now in service in Russian and Indian air forces. The Soviet Union launched fifth-generation fighter programs in the 1980s. By the mid-1990s, the Mikoyan Design Bureau developed the Project 1.44 warplane, also known as the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG MFI. The Sukhoi Design Bureau came up with the S-37 Berkut experimental supersonic forward swept-wing jet fighter. The S-37 aircraft was an advanced technology demonstration prototype not intended to be mass-produced as a fighter. However, due to the lack of funding, the Project 1.44 aircraft was not streamlined and never entered production either. By the late 1990s, it became apparent that existing fifth-generation fighter projects were becoming obsolete, that their production versions would be inferior to the brand new American F-22 Raptor air superiority fighter, and that even if finalized the air force would receive such warplanes a decade too late. As a result, in the early 2000s, the Russian Government made decision to develop an entirely new fifth-generation fighter. The Sukhoi, Mikoyan and Yakovlev Design Bureaus, all renowned for their fighters, offered several warplane versions. The project was eventually entrusted to Sukhoi, which refers to it internally as the T-50. Various maiden flight and supply deadlines were discussed from the very beginning. The T-50 was eventually scheduled to perform its first flight somewhere between 2008 and 2010. In late 2008, the commander of the Russian air force announced that the plane would first take off in August 2009. Mikhail Pogosyan, head of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, confirmed the information. "The progress that has been made by now suggests that we can begin the flight tests within one year," Mr Pogosyan said. Several versions of the aircraft are being discussed, including a two-seater model, and a carrier-based aircraft. In the summer of 2008, officials said the T-50 design had been approved and prototype aircraft blueprints sent to the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-building plant (KNAAPO) in Russia's Far East, where jet fighters will be produced. The plant is currently building three prototype T-50 fighters for future tests, due to last five to six years, while mass production will not get underway before 2015. Although T-50 specifications have not been disclosed, it is known that prototypes and the first production aircraft will be fitted with 117S (upgraded AL-31) turbofan engines from Russian aircraft engine manufacturer Saturn. As a result, the T-50 will be a heavy fighter with a takeoff weight of over 30 metric tons and will have the same dimensions as the well-known Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker. The Tikhomirov Institute of Instrument Design, which had developed the Irbis radar for the Su-35BM Flanker, is now working on the T-50 radar. The new fighter's radar and fire-control system will be designs on the basis of the Su-35BM's systems. India is reportedly more interested in the two-seater version, while Russia, with its developed ground and air fight control system, plans to concentrate on the one-seater fighter. There is a possibility that the Indian version of the Russian fighter will be lighter and smaller, and thus cheaper. There have been reports in the past few months about the new fighter's exterior design. Judging by photographs of the prototype available online, the T-50 will resemble the American F-22, a fact easily explained by similar parameters on their technical specifications. However, it is yet undecided whether the model will eventually be used as a prototype. As of now, one can only make general conclusions on what kind of a machine it will be, based on the known parameters of their technical specifications. The new fighter should be: - multifunctional - capable of successfully hitting air, ground and water targets alike, including small and moving ones, in any weather or time of the day, against an enemy equipped with high-precision weapons; - super-maneuverable - capable of performing controlled flight at low velocity and large angle of attack; - largely undetectable by optical, infrared or radio radars; and - capable of taking off and landing on short runways. However, the term "fifth-generation" covers more than just the fighters. It also embodies a whole range of equipment to ensure advanced combat capabilities, including weapons, radio-electronic equipment, ground- and air-based supply and control systems. These elements are also under development, although not all projects are proceeding with equal speed and success. Nevertheless, they are all crucial to the program as a whole. Without them, the new fighter will remain a very expensive toy incapable of boosting the combat capabilities of the air force. The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
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22nd April 2009, 08:07
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22nd April 2009, 18:17
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In Lipetsk aviatsentre open hangar to service the new generation of aircraft
Hangar, for maintenance of 4 + generation aircraft, including Su-34, and in the future, and 5-generation aircraft, will be put into operation on 24 April in the Lipetsk aviatsentre. According to the agency "Lipetsk-Info" Assistant Chief aviatsentra Vladimir Kahlenko, a hangar built at the expense of Charitable Fund of St. Nicholas. " "This is a frame construction insulated with arch-type concrete floor, where the conditions of constant temperature and humidity can be carried out by the technical work of any complexity, such as the replacement aircraft engine, as well as the checking of all aircraft systems, while connecting elektrogidropitanii. Our airfield - the only aircraft in front Air Force, which has such a construction ", - told the agency interlocutor. At the opening ceremony of the hangar will be attended by representatives of regional and municipal authorities, the leaders of the charitable fund, the clergy and the Lipetsk Eletskii sanctify the new diocese. Source: Site «Lipetsk regional news», www.aviaport.ru Published: 22.04.2009, 18:29 |
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22nd April 2009, 22:26
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Brazil, Russia engages in military space
License to produce Russia's fifth generation fighter aircraft may be Brazil, did not rule yesterday, the first Deputy Director of Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) Alexander Fomin. Russia today is not able to carry out large-scale military-industrial projects on their own, experts believe. Nevertheless, the statement may contribute to the victory of Russia in the tender for the supply to Brazil, the fourth-generation fighters. «On the Brazilian aircraft company Embraer, we discuss the exchange of technologies and the creation of a corporation on the basis of the site for assembly and production license in the future of aviation», - told yesterday said the first deputy director FSVTS Alexander Fomin. In particular, he said, it is a fifth generation fighter. Remember, a new fighter (a forward-looking set of front-line aviation aircraft - PAK FA) developed by a consortium comprising CB Mikoyan, Yakovlev and Sukhoi. In late March, the Minister of Trade and Industry Viktor Khristenko has promised that the new fighter aircraft first flight already this year.Serial production of PAK FA scheduled for 2012-2015 years. Following the establishment of the PAC FA market will be only two fifth generation of Russian and American, and the «five» can take more than a third of the market. It was expected that Russian aircraft characteristics will be superior to American F-35. Руководитель Центра анализа стратегий и технологий (АСТ) Руслан Пухов напомнил РБК daily, что ранее было подписано межправительственное соглашение, по которому в программу разработки ПАК ФА вошла Индия. Head of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (ACT), Ruslan Pukhov reminded RBC daily, that was previously signed an agreement under which the program of development of the PAC FA entered India. «The country will co-finance the project and participate in the development of fighter aircraft, which received some of their number», - explained the expert. Assistance to Brazilians, according to experts, it will take for several reasons. «Today's military-industrial projects, as a rule, a multinational, - told RBC daily ACT Deputy Director Konstantin Makienko. - For example, fighter aircraft Eurofighter is produced by four countries. All conveniently - to share risks, and accordingly, distributed project work » «Brazil - one of the most developed countries in the aircraft industry - continuing member of the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense Igor Korotchenko. And, given the strong position the company Embraer, Russia could significantly expand the market for aircraft ». Experts also reminded about the renewal of Brazilian tender for the purchase of more than a hundred fighters. «If you have a Russian Su-35 has been removed from their short list, but now it is a question of his return, - reminded Mr. Makienko. Bringing Brazil to the PAK FA project may be marketing course ». Observers do not think that negotiations with the Brazilian crisis. — уверен г-н Макиенко. «PAK FA will definitely take place from us, regardless of what percentage will be joined by India and Brazil Is the project», - I am sure Mr. Makienko. «The main works have been completed, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur built the first prototype PAK FA to« iron », - added Mr. Korotchenko. —Now is the saturation of its aggregates, engines and avionics ». Labor Conflict in the KnAAPO, according to experts, will not affect the fate of the new fighter. «The company's assembly plant for the export of aircraft separated from the processing chain of production, carrying out orders for fifth-generation fighter aircraft - explained Igor Korotchenko. - The crisis also affected namely «eksportniki», which, due to the cessation of Chinese orders have now out of work ». source:wwww.aviaport.ru Date:08.04.2009 |
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23rd April 2009, 12:34
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All programs on the Russian aircraft did not lost a single ruble in the face of crisis
VORONEZH, April 23. (ITAR-TASS) All programs on the Russian aircraft did not lost a single ruble in a crisis, is reported in Voronezh, Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Viktor Khristenko. According to V. Khristenko, "to minimize the impact of the crisis and address the current problems in the aircraft industry from the account Minpromtorga funded by 20 billion rubles. This decision was taken on aircraft and engine companies "to finance the additional sum of more than 10 billion rubles." According to Khristenko, this means that "the Russian government clearly their priorities, which it developed in this area as one of the major aircraft and future directions of the Russian economy." The Minister also noted that "in times of crisis and need support to customers that they support the demand for technology. The plan also provides assistance to Russian airlines, which are in the process of consolidation of air carriers that will positively affect the demand for aircraft manufactured in Russia. " The Russian government "is building its actions threatened the crisis adequately" Khristenko stressed. |
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