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Old 4th November 2006, 22:55
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Japan is far more realistic than China, and we still wouldn't go through with it. The last time there was any aviation-related joint project between Korea and China, the project fell apart under a year after Chinese demanded nearly 100% of workshare. It was a project for a regional airliner if I remember correctly.
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Old 4th November 2006, 23:13
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Japan is far more realistic than China, and we still wouldn't go through with it. The last time there was any aviation-related joint project between Korea and China, the project fell apart under a year after Chinese demanded nearly 100% of workshare. It was a project for a regional airliner if I remember correctly.
It is natural that China will be bit more dominant in project because they have more to put on the table. More funding, more experience, etc. the Chinese aviation industry is almost equal to Russian one and they already have history of making airliners, jet engines and bombers. But if what you say is true, 100% is a bit unrealistic and unfair for Korean side. However Korean aviation industry have much to benefit and learn from Chinese one and China can benefit with Koreans also buying joint venture aircraft. I do not see why Japan is more realistic, they refuse to acknowledge the crime they do onto your people.
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Old 5th November 2006, 09:30
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A more realistic idea is for S.Korea to reconsider its alinement with China and jointly develop a 5th generation aircraft together.
Dream on...
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Old 21st May 2007, 16:51
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There are updated photos at Aviation Week

Sirs,
there are 2 updated photos at Aviation Week & Space Magazine of April 23rd 2007, page 61. One with a "big nose" (for a bigger radar) and one with a small nose AKA F-35. Unfortunately my scanner is broken
Can someone post this photos here?
The article says South Korea is looking for partners. I just wonder if other in development countries with advanced aerospace industry like Brazil and South Africa would like to jump in !!! Should be interesting !
Regards.
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Old 21st May 2007, 18:44
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the Chinese aviation industry is almost equal to Russian one and they already have history of making airliners, jet engines and bombers.
seriously deluded.. what a joke !
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Old 21st May 2007, 20:57
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Let's be serious here $12Bil is not going to get you any serious stealth aircraft indigenous development. If i were Koreans, i would question the amount of my tax dollars going toward this. These days, everybody who wants money to develop combat aircraft will claim "stealth"...imagine telling your leaders otherwise.
I dont know south koreas money value but you need to figure, 12bn$ in korea can as well be 120bn$ r&d worth in US.

Same in case of India and China.

That means it is not necessarily for China to spend $40bn to develope J-xx, rather 3-5 bn$ would suffice IMHO.

Plus you need to know stealth just doesnt means stealth as in invisible but achieving,

1> Low Radar Cross section.
2> Low Infrared signature
3> low Visual signature
4> Low Acoustics
5> Less Smoky
6> Contrail.

These can be achieved by various tweak in design to different materials build for absorbing radar waves to ones own ways.

Developing technologies in its various fields isnt exactly hard, integrating them in a platform to achieve all six is hard.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 06:56
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Let's be serious here $12Bil is not going to get you any serious stealth aircraft indigenous development. If i were Koreans, i would question the amount of my tax dollars going toward this. These days, everybody who wants money to develop combat aircraft will claim "stealth"...imagine telling your leaders otherwise.
12 bil gonna make stealth plane outside USA....
it is about the same number Russia and China spent for their stealth project...
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Old 22nd May 2007, 15:01
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Great link with pictures of the KFX project:

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!KOKxiN...rticle?mid=538

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Old 23rd May 2007, 09:00
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Sirs,
there are 2 updated photos at Aviation Week & Space Magazine of April 23rd 2007, page 61. One with a "big nose" (for a bigger radar) and one with a small nose AKA F-35. Unfortunately my scanner is broken
Can someone post this photos here?
The article says South Korea is looking for partners. I just wonder if other in development countries with advanced aerospace industry like Brazil and South Africa would like to jump in !!! Should be interesting !
Regards.
Hi,

Thanks for your interest in my article.

I am the one who wrote the article for AW&ST but I cannot post the pictures here because they are copyrighted.

Cheers,
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Old 23rd May 2007, 10:04
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South Korea joining up with China?....Yea right!
Japan and Korea might have some major differences but in the end America will force both countries to deal with any differences in an effort to put up a block against future Chinese military growth in the region.
Both Japan and Korea are weary of China than of each other
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