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Old 24th October 2005, 03:54
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Exclamation Argie SUE´s sunk R05 HMS Invincible in 1982

There are many proofs about this theory.

Somebody can help me?
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Old 24th October 2005, 04:01
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SUE + exocet and A4C + bombs
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Old 24th October 2005, 04:28
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RN said in your website:
HMS Ark Royal is larger than her 2 sisters (R05 Vince y R06 Lusty) at 210 metres (683 feet) long.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1891.html
If R05 and R06 have 194 metres...
(see this link: http://www.naval-technology.com/proj...ble/specs.html)
How they they can explain the longitude difference in this photo?

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Old 24th October 2005, 06:59
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There are NO "proofs" to this theory. The fact that I saw her a few weeks ago is one.Any claim that the Invincible was sunk is utter bollox. But then you knew that and are deliberately stirring the pot (hence posting at 3 in the morning.)
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Old 24th October 2005, 07:25
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Mmm, Historic Aviation?

The connection is thin........ but robust?
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Old 24th October 2005, 07:44
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It's true and the other little known fact is that Douglas Bader was captain at the time.
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Old 24th October 2005, 07:51
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Old 24th October 2005, 10:28
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55Heros: ok looking in my official guide, I see they mentione the fleet retrofitted the ski jump from 7* to 12* as fitted to R07, the interesting thing is that there is now R07 listed anywhwere, will get back to you on this

R05 Vince
R06 Lusty
R09 Ark

Who the devil is R07? I'll get back to you shortly on this!
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Old 24th October 2005, 10:48
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Ok I've just found a fault in my book, the official site says that Ark is R07 and that the previous Ark was R09.

In anycase from all my sources I have never come across any official or non official transcripts detailing sinking of any of these carriers. The Fact that the current Ark was commissioned three years after the Falkalnds war proovesd that there was a need for a third carrier and Lusty was comissioned around the same time as the war leaving just two carriers in service back then, Vince and Hermes. We know that neither of these were sunk as Vince has served for many years and has entered a wind down period leading to retirment and Hermes has become INS Virrat.
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I am sure such a loss of life and material would have been difficult to hide then, and surely much more difficult to keep under wraps now, in the age of the internet and conspiracy theories. Easier just to have faked the pictures of Invincible being hit, like the Argentine press had to do to keep the junta happy.
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Nermal: SuE= Super Entendard, the planes that the Arggie navy had flying along side the A-4C's firing the Exocet missiles.
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Old 24th October 2005, 13:28
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Have I missed something or has April 1st been moved?
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Old 24th October 2005, 14:07
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The Argentine Naval air arm always believed that it sank Invincible, on one of their hanger doors at their air base they list Invincible as half a kill, ie-unconfirmed. But the reality is that no british carrier was lost in the falklands.
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Illustrious replace Invincible and she was like a "joker" being Invincible and Illustrious. In 1983 Invincible was sent one year to be repaired so they could covered it perfectly.
Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.

Here i explain better:

Everybody think that HMS Invincible is "R05", but no. The R05 was sunk...


HMS Invincible (R 07)
2005: Portsmouth


HMS Illustrious (R 06)
2005: Portsmouth


HMS Ark Royal (R08)
Extended Readiness thru 2006
2005: Portsmouth


SOURCE -> http://www.geocities.com/~davemc/canset.htm



Where is R05???
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Old 24th October 2005, 17:01
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55Heros: ok looking in my official guide, I see they mentione the fleet retrofitted the ski jump from 7* to 12* as fitted to R07, the interesting thing is that there is now R07 listed anywhwere, will get back to you on this

R05 Vince
R06 Lusty
R09 Ark

Who the devil is R07? I'll get back to you shortly on this!
You know was are the true reason for which Australia did not buy the HMS Invincible after Falklands/Malvinas War?
(they changed of opinion in June of 1982, the R05 fué attacked the 30 of May of 1982)
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Old 24th October 2005, 17:08
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HMS Invincible (R05)
HMS Illustrious (R06)
HMS Ark Royal (R07)

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/148.html
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/europe/uk.htm

In the generation before that you had:

HMS Eagle (R05)
HMS Centaur (R06)
HMS Albion (R07)
HMS Bulwark (R08)
HMS Ark Royal (R09)
HMS Hermes (R12)
HMS Victorious (R38)
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Old 24th October 2005, 17:10
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You know was are the true reason for which Australia did not buy the HMS Invincible after Falklands/Malvinas War?
Because the UK realised that they needed them all.
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Old 24th October 2005, 17:15
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Illustrious replace Invincible and she was like a "joker" being Invincible and Illustrious. In 1983 Invincible was sent one year to be repaired so they could covered it perfectly.
Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.

Here i explain better:

Everybody think that HMS Invincible is "R05", but no. The R05 was sunk...


HMS Invincible (R 07)
2005: Portsmouth


HMS Illustrious (R 06)
2005: Portsmouth


HMS Ark Royal (R08)
Extended Readiness thru 2006
2005: Portsmouth


SOURCE -> http://www.geocities.com/~davemc/canset.htm



Where is R05???
Of course, it all makes perfect sense now, they built a whole aircraft carrier in complete secrecy. After all, this would be such an easy thing to disguise, they probably pretended it was just a weather balloon while it was being constructed.

(I'll keep him talking, you guys call the funny farm )

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Old 24th October 2005, 17:23
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Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.
Sorry, I've been keeping an eye on this thread since moving it and I have to say that's the best laugh I've had for weeks

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Old 24th October 2005, 17:32
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Because the UK realised that they needed them all.
they did not need it, proof of it is that immediately to his return she is sent to refit.
The Argentine Air Force was destroyed and no longer it represented threat.

In addition they counted on the new airport in Port Stanley/Puerto Argentino.
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Old 24th October 2005, 17:38
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They can measure the length of the HMS Invincible in Portsmouth?
It has 196 ms or 210 ms?
they have photos of the arrival to UK in September of 1982?
perhaps someone it is surprised.
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Sorry, I've been keeping an eye on this thread since moving it and I have to say that's the best laugh I've had for weeks

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Thread locked for utter stupidity. Try again on April First, but then with the USS John F. Kennedy sunk by Libyan Su-22s in 1986. Or the Big Ben blown up by the IRA in 1981.
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