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17th March 2005, 14:32
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Short review of the J-10A kit from Trumpeter in 1/72
I just started tread because "HK dragon" asked me to to that ... and because I would like to ask You for some help with the details, esp. as the dimensions are quite different from what I knew so far !
Trumpeter "modeled" the length in 1/72 to 225 mm = 16,20 m and the wingspan in 1/72 again to 130 mm = 9,36 m !!! Here let's go starting with the different frames ! Deino 
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#2
17th March 2005, 14:35
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By the way ... this is the boxart, the decals ond the two possible versions: Prototype 1006 und 1013 !
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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#3
17th March 2005, 14:42
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now these are some detail shots from the kit !
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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#4
17th March 2005, 14:47
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some fuselage, wings, ... details !
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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#6
17th March 2005, 15:17
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Some more parts, PL-8, PL-10, ...
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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17th March 2005, 15:20
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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21st March 2005, 16:56
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Important Hyper Note: I am NOT an Aeronautical Engineer NOR an Aerospace Expert, etc, etc nor do I claim to be one.
Regards, Hyper McStupid
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#9
21st March 2005, 17:04
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I'm waiting for FC-1.
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#10
6th June 2005, 17:55
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Its official advertisements in the Trumpeter site are at
http://www.trumpeter-china.com/war51...age.asp?id=264 http://www.trumpeter-china.com/war51...age.asp?id=264 ] I still can't find this J-10A kit from Trumpeter in Hong Kong now. (AFAIK) UML in Causeway Bay, Ho Man Tin, and Mong Kok don't have it, but as of last month, the (IIRC) Hong Tin model shop, behind the Wing On department store in Yau Ma Tei, has a stack of it. HK$ 76 (about US$ 10) each.
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6th June 2005, 18:18
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i was disapointed by the lack of any PL12/SD10s, so i have to improvise some out of AMRRAMs.
also, the instructions does not have an universal colour key, so all the painting instructions were useless to everyone who are not familiar with trumpiter's colour coding (which i suspect would be the vast majority of users. this meant that i had to keep refering to my J10 pic library, and will greatly incovenience anyone who does not have good quality pics of the J10. aside from that, it is an extremely detailed kit and a very good buy.
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#12
6th June 2005, 18:31
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Here are some very good and interesting links for finished models !
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/inde...howtopic=56415 Deino
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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7th June 2005, 05:23
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http://tuku.military.china.com/milit...04-16/8481.htm http://www.afwing.com/gallery/j10.htm have a "fan art" collection of J-10s in different markings, such as "03" in the PLAAF air demo team Ba Yi, and as Pakistani AF.
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7th June 2005, 12:18
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7th June 2005, 14:10
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I've bought the same kit, (I'm in Australia-Melbourne), it costs $23au, it is a pretty decent kit, by the look of it.
I actualy went to buy the new Revell mig21-f13, but it was sold out, so I bought this instead and an old ESCI - f4 Phantom
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7th June 2005, 14:52
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Here's another interesting one !!!
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... He was my North, my South, my East and West, My working week and my Sunday rest, My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song; I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong. The stars are not wanted now; put out every one: Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun; Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods: For nothing now can ever come to any good. ------------------------------------------------- W.H.Auden (1945)
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#17
8th June 2005, 03:49
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A general question concerning plastic models, i've noticed that in general, the models from China has serious flaws in details and their cover art work is extremely bad. However, Trumpeter seems to be ok (the model, the art work is still horrible)...how about providing guide on which Chinese brands to avoid (or/and what scales). This should be very useful as you see them more widespread in the western markets. Just don't want to be surprised and dissapointed often... 
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#18
8th June 2005, 04:34
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The drawings are good but the plastic models still have some way to go until they can look like a realistic miniature model Last edited by Flogger; 8th June 2005 at 04:43.
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8th June 2005, 05:21
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Does anyone make the J-10 in 1/48 scale? I used to be big into 1/48 many years ago........as a matter of fact I have a F-14D Super Tomcat, F/A-18E Super Hornet, Su-27 Flanker, and a Rafale Marine. In my closet collecting dust
I just have so little time.....................I've been thinking about getting a F-35B and making it with JMSDF marking just to see what it would look like????? Maybe one in RAAF markings............... 
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#20
9th June 2005, 13:12
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] the models from China has serious flaws in details and their cover art work is extremely bad. However, Trumpeter seems to be ok
A couple years ago, I was in Shang Hai, and in a department store, I saw in a show case, some pretty assembled military aircraft models, so I bought a 1:72 Ka-50 by LEE, for only RMB 20, or about US$ 2.41, according to the receipt still in the box. I knew Chinese model makers didn't usually make such good moulds, so I checked the box and the multi-lingual instruction sheet for the original model maker. Amongst the English text was... Italeri. Over the years, I also bought some 1:144 models by LEE... (glancing up...) F-4E, F-14, F/A-18, and Mitsubishi F-1. (Yes, I'm more of a Fighter/Attacker Guy. How did you know?) An IMO interesting aspect about LEE and Trumpeter is they make 1:144 models of PLAAF aircraft, including J-7 and J-8 variants, and my room doesn't have much leisure space to place bigger 1:72 models. OTOH, they also make 1:35 and 1:48 models of Chinese, European, and Japanese AFVs and APCs. WRT ground vehicles, personally, I'm more fascinated by models of mobile AA guns and SAMs, such as the old ZSU-23-4 by Dragon, because they are rare. Last edited by Don Chan; 9th June 2005 at 13:15. Reason: Why ask why? Drink Canada Dry!
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10th June 2005, 14:55
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(On the one paw, I didn't expect the J-10 or just its model kits to have so many international fans.
On the other paw, I'm surprised the Chinese company that makes the J-10 model kits hasn't been arrested and closed down by the (IMO paranoid) Chinese national security ministry for disclosing national military secrets.)
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#22
10th June 2005, 18:18
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So it is not illegal to quote foreign sources about China projects. Trumpeter can very well say they are modeling the J-10 according to descriptions in Western media.
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http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/...es_cropped.jpg Last edited by GoldenDragon; 10th June 2005 at 18:21.
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#23
11th June 2005, 02:08
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You can always get around that by slightly altering the dimensions etc,. to be misleading and not actually that of the factual plane. In any case, Trumpeter could have probably cleared the model with the higher powers to be before putting the model in commercial production. The fact that in the PRC, they don't truly hide the plane anymore. I've seen a TV ad by Greer, a major Chinese appliance maker, using J-10 like planes in CG in their ads. What they still try to hide are the actual details about the plane. straight numbers, performance figures, specs, etc,.
My first impression with the model is that it seems nice, but something is not quite right compared with the original.
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11th June 2005, 05:39
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11th June 2005, 06:13
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14th June 2005, 11:39
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] I've seen a TV ad by Greer, a major Chinese appliance maker, using J-10 like planes in CG in their ads.
I also remember watching on Chinese TV a commercial that featured a flight of J-10s, but I was busy gawking at the J-10s to memorise the brand name. So, according to a post dated July 2002, such as at http://mil.fjii.com/2002-07-15/1200.htm it was a TV commercial for the Da Hong Ying (Big Red Eagle) Group, of Ning Bo City, Zhe Jiang Province, which is into biologics, food, education, and medicines. It has a few sites, such as http://www.dhyinvest.com/ http://www.nbdhy.com/indexe.htm but (grumble) I haven't found a big, clear pic of the CG J-10s, except a small pic at http://www.cnad.com/hot/10pmad/img/y...gmian/0001.jpg
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#27
6th December 2005, 16:25
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In Hong Kong, another good source for model kits made by Chinese model makers is: CIC Model (or Chung Fung in Cantonese Chinese), at 94 Queen's Road East (near the Hopewell Centre, one of the tallest buildings in Hong Kong), in Wan Chai, Hong Kong Island. CIC has a few of the J-10 model kits for HKD 59 (USD 7.56). IMO, CIC is better stocked than, for instance, the two model shops in Sham Shui Po. 1:700 model kits of modern warships (Manchester, Sovremenny, &c), made by the Chinese model maker S.MARS, are for only HKD 20 (USD 2.56). OTOH, I'm mildly fascinated by the SA-13 Gopher model kit made by an Ukrainian model maker that UML is selling, but discouraged by its price of HKD 176 (USD 22.56), because only a few model makers make model kits of SAMs, such as, for instance, Dragon (Patriot, Scud, Shilka, &c), Trumpeter (Guideline, &c), and some Taiwanese model maker (Chaparral, &c).
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#28
7th December 2005, 09:26
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Where you guys get the J-10 models? I went in HK everywhere and couldn't find them. But when I was in Beijing, I found ready big and heavy ones but cost a fortunate.
I'm in Australia, and there's definitely none. Tell where can I found them in HK?
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#29
7th December 2005, 12:00
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WRT the real world, as I said before, two shops in Hong Kong that AFAIK sell the J-10 model kit are: - CIC Model, or Chung Fung in Cantonese Chinese. 94 Queen's Road East (near the Hopewell Centre, one of the tallest buildings in Hong Kong), in Wan Chai, Hong Kong Island. Tel: +852-2529-6763 - Continental Model, or Hong Tin in Cantonese Chinese. G/F, Wing On Kowloon Centre, 345 Nathan Road, in Yau Ma Tei, Kowloon Peninsula. Tel: +852-2385-0623 Fax: +852-2780-1668 Other shops in Hong Kong that sell military vehicles model kits, but AFAIK don't sell the J-10 model kit, include: any UML, the several shops near the Gwong Wah Hospital in Yau Ma Tei, the two shops in Sham Shui Po, and the two shops near the Mong Kok train station. (I'll not name these other shops, to avoid unnecessary advertisement, but Hongkongers who are into compressed air guns, or military model kits, would know where and which I'm implying.) WRT the Web, I'm not familiar with on-line shops that sell military model kits, so other Netters reading this thread may recommend some reliable sites of good reputation?
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#30
7th December 2005, 13:51
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I build mostly cars, so if any of you guys could help me locate a model I would appreciate it. I have been looking for years for a Revell AG VW Corrado in 1/24 scale. They wrere not imported much here to the States, and seem to be made of Unobtainium. If any of you find one in a model shop around you, please PM me, and I'll try to arrange something, as I would really love to get one of them.
As for the J-10, I may have to grab one of those to put next to my F-8Us....
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