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24th December 2009, 10:10
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Top Gear. This title suggests a late '60's cloths show. ( perhaps that was the subtle play on words that only worked the once.)
Then it turns out to be a motoring show. But discussed nothing but very very expensive luxury cars. Then turned into last of the summer wine with one right wing, hang em high, up himself, bombastic bully. A young bit of eye candy for women and one sensible bloke with a reasoned outlook on life who becomes the butt of the other two's unsympathetic snide remarks. Then the producers give these three stupid tasks involving caravans, pick up trucks, and turning cars into boats that surprise surprise then sink. Also doing pointless trips across areas of the world which would have benifited from the money being given to charities working in the areas. Has an AA or RAC spokesman ever been on? Has an advanced motorists ever been on? Has a minister of transport or his modern equivilant been on? Have they ever discussed road layouts or the planning behind them? They may have mentioned the swindon system as a joky item. As you can tell I have watched but only because my family like it, and I like the celebrity in a reasonable priced car part. But as a "motoring programme" it leaves a lot to be desired. Merry Christmas and Happy new Year to each of you. 
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24th December 2009, 10:23
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24th December 2009, 10:43
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Perhaps that's why I didn't watch it   Previously someone said that 5th gear had been dropped. I suppose motornig as a subject is limited in appeal. There are ways of improving traffic flow (besides the obviuos -too many vehicles). For instance A lower speed limit can keep traffic flowing better. not that I believe lower speed limited is the answer to everything. Surely there are experts who have studied these problems have solutions that could be tried? I suppose that comes down to finance, like everything else. See I am already boring myself and have gone off topic -sorry.
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24th December 2009, 13:01
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And there was me thinking that Formula One was the most boring 'motoring' programme on the BBC just now...
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24th December 2009, 14:40
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What really needs to happen is more (recurrent) instruction for drivers of cars. Not only would this increase the abilities of motorists, it would eliminate groups of drivers who should not be on the road in the first place. The number one issue for car drivers is observation. Hmm, wishful thinking...
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26th December 2009, 08:52
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Before they do they might pause to consider their audience!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...n-TV-poll.html
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26th December 2009, 17:52
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I am not even in the UK and TopGear is what i await every week!
Its like a medicine to me...and it has never gone out of fashion. In fact it somehow keeps getting better and better! It will be atrocious if TopGear is removed simply due to the dumbing down of television around the world.
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26th December 2009, 21:20
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'still what do they know?'  It's called entertainment. If you want to be bored f*rtless watch fifth-gear. Just watched the one with the Ford Focus coming off the Landing craft full of Marines, one in the back, "are we there yet?"............Clarkeson hesitates, then bust's out laughing................priceless! Great programme, of course it's scripted, fall to bit's if it wasn't, of course they have ego's, wouldn't work if they didn't. Baz
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26th December 2009, 22:30
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26th December 2009, 23:33
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27th December 2009, 00:58
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As for TG, we're still watching 2004 episodes but I love it. Who cares if it's scripted, who cares if it's only exotic machines (of course they're 5/6 years old now so we might be able to afford them) who cares if the presenter have huge ego's. It's the best of British comedy, along with The Vicar of Dibly and such. I agree that FG was boring, the Oz version of TG a total failure but I never miss TG unless it's a repeat. Moggy C you will have to change either your attitude, or your name. Moggy is the nick name for the best, and last true sports car made, the Morgan, and who wouldn't like one of them. Last edited by Deskpilot; 27th December 2009 at 04:20.
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27th December 2009, 08:05
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27th December 2009, 08:44
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Perhaps the solution may then be for a channel to re-instate a show like Fith Gear for people like you and keep Top Gear going for people like us
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27th December 2009, 08:53
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I enjoy Top Gear and it is undeniably popular but is it "good"? Fifth Gear is probably a better motoring programme but is probably in danger of becoming popularised because ratings are an essential factor on commercial television. I am surprised that there is no specialised programme for true motoring enthusiasts on a satellite channel, many of which seem to survive on relatively small viewing figures as production costs are relatively low.
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27th December 2009, 09:09
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But the statement from the producer teased with the promise that Top Gear might become a car show again. Moggy
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27th December 2009, 18:26
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I don't watch it every week but do catch a lot of the older ones on Dave.
Seems to me it has turned into an excuse for 3 presenters with huge egos to cane the life out of other peoples machinery and then give back whatever is left after thay have done their best to destroy it. I do appreciate that there is a fine line between hard and reckless driving but feel that Top Gear crosses that line way too often. Frankly I am amazed that anyone loans them anything to test. I certainly wouldn't lend them any car that I owned particularly having heard the story of a historic racer lent to them some years ago that allegedly came back with the diff and gearbox needing a rebuild and the halfshafts tied in knots. To me many of their antics are the automotive equivalent of attempting to fly a modern aerobatic sequence in a Spitfire and then wondering why the airframe has been overstressed. It has all become juvenille and I am amazed that presenters who claim to be car enthusiasts feel that it is OK to treat other peoples vehicles with so little mechanical sympathy.
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27th December 2009, 18:57
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27th December 2009, 19:58
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I have all the Specials on DVD, and have watched them repeatedly over time.
I've also got all the Challenges on DVD - and they're pure entertainment.
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27th December 2009, 21:57
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I love it, always have.
As the papers suggest it may die, I will miss it. All the presenters are carving out nice alternative careers though, it seems it's been planned for a couple of years. JC should be a Sir or a Lord.
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28th December 2009, 23:20
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As a non-driver I really couldn't give two hoots about Top Gear,but I just have to share this news item for all those men who insist that women can't park.
Judging by my daughter's thirty-eight manoeuvre attempt today,you may well have a point. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8432887.stm
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29th December 2009, 08:34
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For those who want to see Top Gear turned into a boring, humdrum, lifeless, soleless and humourless programme where people with no personality talk only about cars and make no jokes, than I recommend Top Gear Australia. We have just had the first episode air here tonight in NZ, in fact it's still playing but I have switched it off because it is appaullingly boring.
I don't know where they got the presenters but I'd guess it was in a "most annoying Aussie accent ever" competition, or a "look like a used car salesman weasel" competition, rather than anything to do with presenting a TV show. A total disappointment and waste of time. If the BBC producers want to change anything, it's cull this crap to stop it tainting the real show's great reputation. It makes you really appreciate the warmth, humour and fun of Jeremy, Richard and James, who clearly show they enjoy what they do and each other's company, as opposed to the morbid twits on the Aussie rip-off. It's far worse than any NZ motoring show, and I thought they were bad till now.
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29th December 2009, 13:55
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I read somewhere recently Jeremy Clarkson talking about the popularity of Top Gear. He said it is the most downloaded BBC program, is watched by millions on YouTube and nobody has told him about it being taken off air!
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29th December 2009, 20:56
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I'll bet the producer is just posturing for the next pay round. Remember last time the three presenters wanted a pay rise they said they were quitting and the BBC panicked. This seems to me that the whole thing is a way to minimise the next rise for the BBC's biggest stars.
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30th December 2009, 15:35
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Moggy's views aside it seems the Beeb has a hit show...
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30th December 2009, 20:44
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To whoever said about them having the minister of transport on, they had stephen ladyman on when that was his job a few years back, but i can't pretend boris was on for his role!
It is getting a little boring and is far to scripted, i still find myself laughing, but wonder why. It must cost a lot of money, but what else do you get for the license fee (and i am sure moree than pays for itself in spin offs), it was at its peak a couple of seasons ago, and tbh with the amount its repeated i didn't know there was a new series til the 4th episode. As regards ruining dunsfold- would the place exist still if the show didn't need the runway, i love seeing the aircraft in the background. Lots of free publicity for the armed forces, and its good to know if you can fit Ross Kemp in the back of a car. No producer, esp one of top gear wants there show to get predictable, i doubt the presenters do, whilst everyone is still having fun it'll keep going, there'll keep pretending its the end, but as long as the miserables are getting annoyed by it, its a winner!!!
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6th January 2010, 16:17
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According to Wikipedantic: "Jeremy Clarkson , who helped the original series reach its peak in the 1990s, along with producer Andy Wilman, successfully pitched a new format for Top Gear to the BBC, reversing a previous decision to cancel the show in 2001. The new series was first broadcast in 2002." Can't imagine him leaving - but I live in hope! 
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6th January 2010, 17:25
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I have finally watched an episode from the current series!
I was with some friends in France and they insisted on having it on. The last episode of the series apparently. It was as dreadful as I remember. Hammond proving yet again he can't drive fast cars with the Lexus, spiced up with some crappy special effects which gave them the chance for some rib-splitting running joke about not having enough money for the other items in the show - My! How we laughed until our sides split. The only other car item I can recall was May driving a VXR Insignia that devolved into a chat with the lady who designed road signs. Separately potentially interesting, run together totally pointless. Who else would liked to have seen Fifth Gear put a real driver in it and run it around the circuit, first in standard handling mode and then with the "VXR button" pushed? I would, it would have told us something. Then the series awards - again we laughed till our sides ached at them banging their heads on a light inside the test cars. Gosh it was fun, the audience were all standing in pools of urine it was so hilarious. But it was OK because Jezza established his non-pc credentials by using the word 'anus' on TV. Lordy he's such a rebel. I'm sitting here trying to remember which car Jezza drove, but it made so little impact that three days on I simply cannot recall one second of it except they added some fascinating clips of him around the world to prove how they had run out of money with Hammond's effects. Gosh. So, I'd guess I have missed nothing by not watching the rest of the series. Such a shame, still it seems nobody is interested in turning out programmes for people interested in cars and driving any more. And please don't tell me I'm missing the point and that it's an entertainment show not a car show. If that load of bollox was entertainment then it's about time we got around to broadcasting a Dulux drying competition. Moggy
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6th January 2010, 17:32
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Your opinion, but view figures say different.
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6th January 2010, 17:36
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Well you have made your point and after submitting yourself to the ordeal. At least now you need never watch it again and leave the remaining 5 or 6 million of us to enjoy it, much as we always have.
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