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Bombardeir building aircraft plant in Mexico
In this handout photo released by Mexico's Presidency, Mexican president Felipe Calderon, left, examines an airplane fuselage at a Bombardier Aerospace plant in Queretero, Mexico, Thursday. Montreal-based Bombardier, the world's third-largest aircraft maker, plans to add 300 workers at their facility in Mexico this year.
In this handout photo released by Mexico's Presidency, Mexican president Felipe Calderon, left, examines an airplane fuselage at a Bombardier Aerospace plant in Queretero, Mexico, Thursday. Montreal-based Bombardier, the world's third-largest aircraft maker, plans to add 300 workers at their facility in Mexico this year. http://nbbusinessjournal.canadaeast....article/226596 |
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Bombardier will manufacture airplanes in Queretaro
2008-02-29 Queretaro- The Canadian Company Bombardier Aerospace will invest. US$200 million in Mexico to export complex airplanes components from their plant installed in Queretaro, which expansion was started last Thursday. The first stage of Bombardier project started a year ago, manufacturing components for airplanes; the second stage considers manufacturing structures such as airplane fuselages and in the third stage airplanes will be assembled. The General Director of Bombadier Manufacturing Center in Mexico, Real Gervais, said that since its arrival to Queretaro, Bombardier has generated around 800 direct jobs and they are expecting to reach two thousand jobs next year. He said that the arrival of Bombardier Aerospace, which occupies a 35 hectares surface of land located in Queretaro International Airport, implies a US$200 million investment throughout seven years. A little over 800 employees currently providing their services to this Canadian Company are working in the production of the intermediate fuselage for the executive aircraft Challenger 850; of electric harnesses for several models and of flight stabilizers for Q400 turboprop. A Mexican Aeronautics University, Universidad Nacional Aeronautica, will be built within five years, with a forecasted investment of MEP$550 million, which will receive two thousand students in several academic levels. Source: Notimex http://www.maquilaportal.com/cgi-bin...oard.pl?klie=3 Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 3rd March 2008 at 16:48. |
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Why not take advantage of low pay rates, nonexistent pollution, health & safety regulations....?
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You are misunderstanding low tech factories with building aircraft, pollution in Mexico will affect Canada, water and air pollution travels around the world, there is no border bewteen ecosystems. The Health regulation are debatable, however not as you think, in Mexico like Canada there is universal health system and once a person works is automatically given. So the idea the factory will have low conditions is just a cliche, the factory will be high tech, the workers highly skilled since several universities are providing workers to Bombardier, the pollution is debatable and the Health systme not different from canadian standards. Why then Bombarider is in Mexico? simply lower salaries, better intelectual property protection than China and very important it is part of the NAFTA superhighway. Mexico offers relatively quick and unexpensive shipments to Canada. Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 3rd March 2008 at 22:45. |
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I agree, the quality of work will be fine...certainly aircraft standards will be met.
My point is, they can get the same standards a a much lower cost. Same thing with TVs, computers and other items that come from "low wage" countries. by Health and Safety I was referring to industrial safety issues. As far as pollution, Mexico does not have the same standards as the US and Canada...there is an issue of air & water pollution heading north into the USA. Having been to Mexico and having lived in two border states, I can assure you Mexico is more concerned with employment levels than if any pollution escapes its borders.
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I can of agree with you but not as you think, it is correct probably the Mexican politicians are more concerned with jobs more than pollution however i will say a simple question number one what is the Mexican antipollutioon regulation and what rules or points does not cover as the american regulation? i bet you won`t answer this one because it requieres to know both nations antipollution laws, and why if the american regulation is so good why it is allowed to some american firms to pollute in the other side of the border when basicly the pollution has no border once Mexico is polluted the US will be pollute?pollution has no border and does not need pastports or Visas to enter the US and Canada? The reality is the US and Mexican regulation are more or less equivalents but both nations do not apply them simply because of economics and by the fact that big corporations are not forced in both sides of the border to respect nature, big corporations are to blame since they have enough economic power to force national governments to do not inforce the ecological protection laws. While in the US they use Mexico as a scapegoat of all the corruption and lack of honesty by many US politicains in mexico poverty and corruption end up too destroying the ecology. conclusion: both the US and Mexico are to blame. However i do not think in this case Bombardier is a corrupt company, since they are demanding very high standards to the Mexican government and the Mexican government is exepting Bombardier of paying exesive taxes if the canadian company has a beneficial effect in the mexican economy. Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 4th March 2008 at 01:38. |
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If they don't enforce them, what's the point in having them? You state the obvious that pollution freely crosses international boundies... It would be nice if Mexico would enforce whatever regulations it has. Mexico isn't that poor...it has first class natural resources and a hard working populace. It's just that the government is very corrupt and the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a very small number of people. As I've said, I've been on the border and have seen the difference...have you?
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see Today, more than 40 percent of U.S. waterways are unsafe for swimming and fishing activities. http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/mar2...6-03-24-05.asp ![]() http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfa...reduction.html http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/m...pubs/msw06.pdf in fact if you see of those pounds only 35% was recycled. CO2 emissions Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom) #1 United States: 5,762,050 #2 China: 3,473,600 #3 Russia: 1,540,360 #4 Japan: 1,224,740 #5 India: 1,007,980 #6 Germany: 837,425 #7 United Kingdom: 558,225 #8 Canada: 521,404 #9 Italy: 446,596 #10 Mexico: 385,075 #11 France: 363 So J Boyle very likely the US is not a nation that is very ecological, true mexico is not an example of green tech either however the impact the US has on the enviroment of North America is higher than Mexico per capita and in the total amount of pollution generated by Year. The Bombardier company is only taking Mexico`s general characteristics to build cheaper aircraft and compete with Embraer head to head since already the Canadian dollar is more expensive and the Mexican workers can cheapen those aircraft allowing and at the same time allowing Mexico to get a limited technology transfer and train specialists in the aerospace manufacturing industry. ![]() http://www.queretaro.gob.mx/noticia.php?anio=2007&dia=0&historico=true&mes=0&clave=2944&pageNum_noticias=799 ![]() http://www.queretaro.gob.mx/noticia....m_noticias=174 ![]() http://ipezone.blogspot.com/2007/12/...aerospace.html ![]() http://www.skyscraperlife.com/transp...en-mexico.html ![]() http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n611163.htm Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 16th March 2008 at 02:09. |
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![]() One of the Aeromarmi new original aircraft the Stela being built, Mexico is focusing in building Bombardiers and buildiing new domestic designs in the new ambitious aerospace industry program that has been set by the Mexican government to become one of the future countries with aircraft manufacturing capability http://www.universia.net.mx/index.ph...ew/full/47240/ |
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Mexico City— General Electric Infrastructure Queretaro expanded its
engineering center, specialized in the design of airplane turbines and ecologic energy generation turbines. This expansion will generate around 600 jobs for Mexican engineers recently graduated from different colleges, the Company’s officers said. Around 1,050 engineers in aeronautics industry are currently working at this plant in Queretaro. “This project not only means employment generation, but also the development of technology in Mexico”, said President Felipe Calderon in the Center’s inauguration. Giovanni Aloi Timeuz, Director of GE Energia in Mexico said that they will focus on making space industry evolve; among their plans stands out the new GX turbine, “in which design more than 120 engineers participate and will achieve a 20% reduction in fuel and is also less noisy”. Mexico’s aeronautics sector generated around 20,000 jobs and contributed to exports with US$2.6 billion. General Electric is planning to invest US$100 million in Mexico only this year. Source:CNNExpansión http://www.maquilaportal.com/cgi-bin...oard.pl?klie=2 http://mx.ibtimes.com/articles/20080...acute-xico.htm http://www.cnnexpansion.com/negocios...leos-en-mexico CNN reports that the G&E Mexican plant also will work in the development of an jet engine for the A-380 Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 10th March 2008 at 15:34. |
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Some pictures of the Bombardier factory
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Honeywell is designing jet engine parts in Mexicalli, Baja california norte, Mexico for the A-350
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Aerospace Industry generates 16 thousand 500 jobs and includes 10
companies in the field, ranking third in Mexico with the largest number of companies operating in this sector the Ministry of Industrial Development informed. In a press release, the Ministry states that there are 10 more companies in this sector considering the idea to establish new production projects. Even if the number of jobs generated by this sector in the State has practically doubled in recent years, it is still a small portion compared to the total number of jobs in the Mexican exports-assembly industry, which generates 1.2 million jobs. The Ministry of Industrial Development pointed-out that the State Government fosters a new aerospace cluster in Chihuahua, for this is an industry with high growth all over the world, and promotes industrial scaling towards a capital and technology intensive sector, which requires more personnel with technical and professional degrees. The companies already established in the State of Chihuahua are: Honeywell Aerospace, which manufactures turbines for Boeing 737; Labinal Safran Group, which works in harnesses manufacturing, engineering and design; SGI-Electro Switch, which operates in the electronic sector. There are also Textron Cessna, which produces harnesses; Aersoan that works in metallic structures field; Cambrian Industries in machined area; Capsonic Automotive & Aerospace that produces parts for turbines. Another company is Hawker Beechcraft Corporation, Zodiac which manufactures emergency products and Air Crussiers. Among the companies established in Chihuahua Hawker Beechcraft Corporation stands out for its impact and investment, it is the first aircraft assembler that arrived in Chihuahua and the second in Mexico, and therefore the State has a very good position and is taking important steps towards the consolidation of the aeronautic sector. This Company has the project to assemble King Air airplanes in the State in four years. There is also Labinal Safran Group which has around three years in the State and which currently employs three thousand people; in a short time they have opened two plants in different industrial parks. In addition to this investment this Company will install in Chihuahua City its third Airplane Parts Design Center in the world; they already have one in France and another one in the United States. Source: El Diario de Cd. de Juarez http://www.maquilaportal.com/cgi-bin...oard.pl?klie=1 Seems like beechcraft will also build aircraft in mexico ![]() Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 20th March 2008 at 15:55. |
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GE Energy encourages research by Mexicans
2008-03-20 Mexico City- Last generation airplane turbines and components for the energy industry are designed and manufactured every day by Mexican engineers in GE Energy plant in Queretaro, to be sold all over the world. According to Giovanni Alloy, the Company General Director, they are willing to put their money in Mexican engineers and will therefore expand their design center which currently employs one thousand 50 engineers, so that 50 engineers more work there by the beginning of 2010. it is the largest Engineering Center in the world and the only one GE has in Latin America・ Alloy pointed-out and further said that half of the plant works on the technological developments for the energy industry and the other half on aerospace industry. The energy area is focused on the development of technology related to combined cycles, renewable resources, Aeolian energy and nuclear reactors; only in this area there are five Mexican engineers. In aviation, engineers work on the development and design of airplane turbines such as those operating in Aeromexico and Interjet airplanes. In the Queretaro Center the Company designs, together with Boeing, an engine that will be assembled in a 787, which among other things will provide for 20% fuel savings. The arrival of GE to Queretaro was two decades ago, when together with other partnerships they established a center where engineering was developed for General Electric with 70 specialists. Source: El Norte source http://www.maquilaportal.com/cgi-bin...oard.pl?klie=4 ![]() Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 21st March 2008 at 07:50. |
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Mexico. - Group ITP signs an agreement with the State of Querétaro to develop aeronautical turbines of low pressure CITY OF MEXICO, 24 Ene. (EUROPE PRESS) - The governor of the Mexican State of Querétaro, Francisco Garrido Pattern, and the president of the Council of the Spanish group Industria de Turbo Propulsores S.A. (ITP), Ricardo Martí, signed a collaboration agreement to develop a project of manufacture of turbines of low pressure for the aeronautical sector, inquired officially. In an official notice of the government of Querétaro, it was indicated that the company/signature was made in Spain, where Garrido makes a work tour in which it has visited the facilities of ITP in Bilbao where it has been able to know the projects future the company. Group ITP is the first house of the company ITR Mexico, that is dedicated to the maintenance of turbines of commercial airplanes and that has been installed in Querétaro for ten years. Garrido participated in addition in a seminary in the technological park to Zamundio, in Bilbao, where it exposed the projects of the aeronautical complex of Querétaro. After their exhibition, representatives of attending companies when char showed it to the governor their intention to invest in the Mexican city. ITR, branch of ITP in Mexico, makes motors for airplanes and makes the tests of these. With the new agreement signed with the Interior de Querétaro it will impel the construction of turbines of low pressure. ITR is formed in a 57 percent by Spanish ITP, Mexican of Aviacio'n and Aeroméxico in a 14.5 percent respectively and by General Electric, who counts on the 14 percent of the actions. The first house, Group ITP, are participated by Aeronautical Sener (53.125 percents) and by Rolls Royce (46.875 percents) and it is dedicated to engineering, investigation and development, to the manufacture and smelting, and the assembly and tests of aeronautical motors and gas turbines.
http://www.europapress.es/00103/2008...a-presion.html In less than three years Mexico will be one of the few countries specialized in the manufacture of turbines of low pressure, that are sold in the world and they are not made in any country of Latin America, but in England, Germany and Spain; in addition to which it will repair turbines CFM56. ITR wich located in Querétaro, is dedicated to the manufacture of tubes and maintenance of motors, which has Mexican capital, it made alliances with the Spanish company ITP, the British Rolls Royce and the Snecma French. Currently they are studying and preparing the conditions to make turbines of low pressure with ITP and Rolls Royce and the repair of the motor CFM56 with Snecma. During an interview with Manufacture department, Jose Luis Chávez Vásquez, director of the area of Recursos Humanos (RH) of ITR. "in Mexico there has never been made a turbine of low pressure, it is a level of very advnaced engineering that will allow us to arm not only small components, but complete Jet engines", he explained. The fact we will manuifacture turbines of low pressure in Mexico means a quantum jump for the Mexican aeronautics industry ", explained. It detailed that in addition to the support which they are offering to the European companies to develop the technology that is required for the manufacture of the mentioned turbine, we will ask for economic support to the mexican federal government. Chávez Vásquez indicated that what we are looking for is to manufacture the turbine of low pressure here in Mexico, since is a "very important component of the motor". http://www.cnnexpansion.com/manufact...-turbinas/view Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 26th March 2008 at 04:47. |
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Aerospace design and engineering activities are also taking place in Mexico. In Coahuila state, there is GE's Center for Advanced Engineering in Turbo machinery, a place where Mexican engineers are designing control systems for jet engines.
http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:lf4H8oOFpW4J:commercecan.ic.gc.ca/scdt/bizmap/interface2.nsf/vDownload/IMI_3484/%24file/X_1370733.DOC+jet+engines+mexico+ITR&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6 Video about bombardier, Queretaro in Spanish http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1 An opinion about Bombardier working conditions En esta empresa disque de primer mundo te exigen que curses una capacitacion de 4 meses como tecnico en electronica aero espacial, pero cual sera tu sorpresa que despues de pagar tu capacitacion en la UTQ de queretaro, y llenar todos los requisitos que te piden que no son pocos, que la llegar a la planta firmas un contrato por un mes, despues por otro y asi hasta llegar a 3, despues de los cuales te dan la planta y un misero sueldo de neto de $1200 semanales, firmas tu contrato de planta, no como tecnico aeroespacial, sino como vil operador de produccion, ademas te tratan de la patada, hay muchos rasgos de racismo en esta empresa, e impocisiones tontas solo para fastidiar a los trabajadores, admas las personas de recursos humanos te tratan con despotismo, para colmo el pin...che bono trimestral asiende en el mejor de los casos a $390 de valuados pesos y si tenias poco de entrar te dan $60, asi como lo estas leyendo, pero por esta feria te suben el impuesto sobre el trabajo, casi al triple... In this so called first world corporation, you require a 4-month training as an avionics technician, but you will find out to your own amazement that after paying your training in the UTQ of queretaro and finishing the course, you will find out at the Bombardier`s plant that you only will sign a contract for one month, then for another and so on until the third month you will sign a contract for only MX$1200 pesos a week (less than USD $120), but not as aerospace technician, but as a mere production operator, you also will see that racism is present in this company, and there are silly measures just to annoy the workers, further more the human resources people are despotic in their dealing with the workers, on top of the that. The quarterly bonus in the best of cases is just merely MX $ 390 pesos (around USD $35 dollars), however if you just started working there they will just give you MX$ 60 pesos, however the company will make you pay a tax almost three times that amount. http://www.apestan.com/cases/bombard...xico_6101.html Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 27th March 2008 at 01:24. |
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Bombardier to Add 300 Workers at Mexico Parts Plant in 2008, Beaudoin Says Posted by roboblogger on Sunday Mar 2 Bombardier Inc., the world's third- largest aircraft maker, plans to add 300 workers in Mexico this year to increase parts production, said the head of the aerospace unit http://www.topix.com/mx/queretaro/20...-beaudoin-says Bombardier Weighs Boost to Train Production in Mexico (Correct) By Thomas Black (Corrects type of aircraft that Bombardier assembles fuselages for in seventh paragraph of story published March 3.) March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Bombardier Inc., the world's second- largest train maker, is weighing whether to build a plant that may double train-production capacity in Mexico, said Flavio Diaz, the company's chief country representative in Mexico. The Mexican government is planning transportation projects requiring as many as 250 locomotives and train cars by 2012, Diaz said. Bombardier will need to decide within three years whether to go ahead with the plant, a choice that hinges on how quickly the projects are bid and how many of them the company wins. ``I could end up short of capacity,'' Diaz said in an interview in Mexico City. ``There's not a city today in the world with the need to resolve its transportation needs as urgently as Mexico City.'' Mexican President Felipe Calderon has said the government and companies will invest 500 billion pesos ($46.7 billion) a year on roads, bridges, ports, light trains and other infrastructure to boost the economy and make the country more attractive for investment. His administration ends in 2012. The commuter-train plans include the second and third legs of a light train to connect Mexico City with neighborhoods in the state of Mexico, Diaz said. The government is also looking to build a new subway line in Mexico City and renovate Mexico City's tramcar system. Another potential project is to add more light train lines in the northern city of Monterrey, he said. Aerospace Bombardier builds locomotives and train cars at its plant in Ciudad Sahagun in the Mexican state of Hidalgo. The plant can make 250 locomotives, 375 mass-transit cars and 3,000 freight cars, the company said. Diaz also said that Bombardier, the world's third-largest aircraft maker, will be ready to present a plan to produce complete airplanes in Mexico to its board in four or five years. The company now assembles cockpit wiring systems, fuselages for its Challenger aircraft and aft fuselages for its Global business jets, putting Bombardier about a year ahead of its 2005-2012 investment plan, he said. ``I can see it happening,'' he said, referring to building complete airplanes in Mexico. ``It wouldn't be logical to have so much industrial success and then halt it when you're getting close to the goal.'' To persuade Bombardier's board on Mexican airplane production, the company needs to attract more suppliers in the country and continue to show it can manufacture quality aircraft parts at a lower cost. In three to four years, Bombardier's operations in Queretaro, Mexico, will probably show a savings of 25 percent on manufacturing costs, Diaz said. The percentage of local supplier content may rise to 20 percent in about five years from almost none now, he said. The Queretaro state government is negotiating with eight aerospace suppliers to locate near the Bombardier plant, Diaz said. Of the eight suppliers, seven are non-Mexican companies with experience in the aerospace industry, he said. To contact the reporter on this story: Thomas Black in Queretaro, http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aJDhnOXIqIuQ Montréal, February 28, 2008 -- Today, Bombardier Aerospace announced the official opening of its world-class manufacturing facility located at the Querétaro Aerospace Park in Mexico. This new facility complements Bombardier’s existing manufacturing sites located in Canada, Northern Ireland and the United States. Manufacturing operations in this facility began in the second half of 2007. Currently, Bombardier Aerospace has approximately 900 full-time employees working at its facilities in Mexico where they manufacture electrical harnesses and structural aircraft components. These components include the Challenger 850 mid-fuselage, the Q400 aircraft flight control work package (rudder, elevator and horizontal stabilizer), and the Global family of aircraft aft fuselage. By the end of 2008, Bombardier Aerospace expects to employ 1,200 full-time staff. “Bombardier Aerospace and Mexico have a solid relationship based on a long-term commitment to develop the aerospace industry within Mexico and we are particularly proud to be the first manufacturer at Querétaro’s new aerospace park,” said Pierre Beaudoin, President and Chief Operating Officer, Bombardier Aerospace. “In parallel to the establishment of this world-class facility, we also plan to develop a local supplier base to further support our Mexican operations and other facilities, and we look forward to other companies joining us in Quetéraro. In this highly competitive industry, which is becoming increasingly global in its scope, we view Mexico as the springboard to the further development of the aerospace industry in Central and South America, and to our increased competitiveness in the international marketplace.” “We are extremely pleased with the work being accomplished by our Mexican employees. Their sense of professionalism and dedication, as well as their willingness to take on, and overcome, tough challenges, has contributed to the success of this venture. Their efforts are setting the standard that will ultimately allow Mexico to become a vital participant in the international aerospace industry. All participants have the right to be proud of their achievements,” Mr. Beaudoin continued. “We applaud the strong commitment shown by both the Federal and State of Querétaro governments to participate and support the three pillars upon which our industry stands: infrastructure, certification and training. I have every confidence that, together, we will build a strong and vital future for the Mexican aerospace industry and for Bombardier.” Bombardier also acknowledges the VESTA-GE alliance that combines the two companies’ experience in the construction and the administration of industrial-type properties, as well as the financing of real estate. VESTA-GE will jointly undertake the investment, the development and the management of the Querétaro Aerospace Park. Querétaro, located north of Mexico City, offers quality industrial and educational infrastructures, a skilled population and dynamic economic development policies. Its modern airport will provide Bombardier Aerospace, its suppliers and other future members of the new Mexican aerospace cluster, the best potential for growth and synergies. In addition to Bombardier Aerospace having aircraft component facilities located in Mexico, Bombardier Transportation is also present through its facility in Ciudad Sahagún. About Bombardier http://www.ontaero.org/Page.asp?Page...SiteNodeID=114 Last edited by MiG-23MLD; 30th March 2008 at 20:43. |
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