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Old 26th April 2007, 13:01
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Short Skyvan

Not sure if this is Historic aviation yet but here goes

We have just acquired a Shorts Skyvan and wondered if anyone had any photos/info on these aircraft in UK military service.

Also looking for instructions to dismantle one

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Old 26th April 2007, 13:18
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No UK military service, sadly; thanks to the policy of successive governments not to equip our armed forces with the home product; that of course does discount the Piggies that flew for Hunting on military support para drops out of Weston-on-the-Green until not so long ago.

Try Pink Aviation Services for info as to how to get one apart, they are quite a substantial operator of the type.

http://www.pink.at/

(All in German but they do sprachen ze Englisch)
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Old 26th April 2007, 15:24
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G-BVXW Short SC7-3A Skyvan
BABCOCK SUPPORT SERVICES LTD TRADING AS: BABCOCK DEFENCE SERVICES as successor of HUNTING AVIATION and Hunting Contract Services (parachute training)
'Hunting Contract Services employed nearly 250 staff at the MoD's Bovington camp, providing technical and support services to Army personnel.'

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Old 26th April 2007, 16:26
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Pink Aviation Services would seem to have an ongoing contract dispute with the Ghananian Air Force concerning the purchase of Skyvans!

http://www.ghanaairforce.com/

Here is a photo of one in Austrian Air Force service.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...ext_id=1106374
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Old 26th April 2007, 18:58
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The real workhorse of the SOAF in the late 1960s and early 1970s was the Skyvan 3M they were operated by British personnel. So perhaps that would be a good colour scheme. I think I saw one at Farnborough many years ago. NB The Airfic kit was in these colours!!
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Old 26th April 2007, 19:01
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is this skyvan going to be airworhty?


thanks Seb
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Old 27th April 2007, 17:06
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is this skyvan going to be airworhty?


thanks Seb
Sadly not
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Old 27th April 2007, 17:28
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A bit grainy and in b&w but here's a sick SOAF Skyvan;
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Old 27th April 2007, 17:30
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Are you able to give any details of which airframe your group has aquired, where it is current located and what time scale you have for movement and restoration, made be forum memebers would be able to help out with the move. I understand that the restoration team memebers require special skills
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Old 27th April 2007, 19:17
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Ah ok theres one flying at my local airfield dropping skydivers wonderful aeroplane

So i assume its going on display in a museum?
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Old 27th April 2007, 22:37
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Ah ok theres one flying at my local airfield dropping skydivers wonderful aeroplane

So i assume its going on display in a museum?
That would be a reasonable assumption! see link.

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Correction

It appears I was misinformed, after getting corrected information it turns out it is a Short 330, G-SSWA. Currently residing at Blackpool Airport fire dump being used as an evacuation trainer.

At 27 years old does it qualify to be historic.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 08:09
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At 27 years old does it qualify to be historic.
The NMuUSAF have an F-22A Raptor just going on display!

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Ever thought of contacting Bombardier in Belfast? I'm sure there must be somone there who could tell you the quickest/safest way of taking it apart. Looks a good project, good luck.

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Excellent project for restoration. Relatively simple in engineering terms, all metal held together with nuts and bolts, should provide good training for the team at Millom. The Short series of aircraft (Skyvan, 330 and 360) really do deserve preserving, its such a shame that aircraft have to be recovered from fire dumps went with a litte more planning airframes could move from in service to training aid to museum exhibit.
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Ever thought of contacting Bombardier in Belfast? I'm sure there must be somone there who could tell you the quickest/safest way of taking it apart. Looks a good project, good luck.

Paul
Contact the Ulster Aviation Society, we moved our ‘330’ prototype just over a year ago, you will need to remove the following for transport:-

1> The tail fin / elevator assembly.
2> The wings.
3> Last but not least, the wing box complete with the engine nacelles.


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A bit grainy and in b&w but here's a sick SOAF Skyvan;
I don't believe it. A Skyvan being aerotowed by something even uglier.
Unless Babcocks are operating the Skyvan direct from Brize these days they have not operated them for over 12 months. I think they have given up with them now as they have not been seen over W-o-t-G in that time.
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move

perhaps you could try kpmg i believe
there handling emerald airways insolvency
and there is another shorts at blackpool sat at the end of the runway
minus its props they were taken off about three months ago
could be useful for spares recovery as looking at it thats all its
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Old 17th May 2007, 23:07
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Contact the Ulster Aviation Society,
Have contacted them and awaiting reply.

Anyone fancy volunteering to assist dismantle the 330 ready for transport, it is currently at Blackpool Airport.

We have been asked to remove it ASAP, we also have a dismantled Jetstream 31 at the airport ready for transport.

Now looking at the possibility of a HS748
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Blackpool Shorts and other airframes

Hello Glynn,

Sorry i got it wrong by saying it was a 'Skyvan' i aquired for you and not a 330! Its not a Lightning or a Heli so im not really that bothered about accuracy as you well know....(sorry purists out there!)

As for the other two airframes im trying to aquire for you, i think ones a 748 and the other may be a BAC 1-11 but i dont know! I will get pics for you to publish so 'those who know' out there can identify them for you.

As you so correctly said, now that ive got them for you, they need to be moved sooner rather than later.

Glad to support such a superb Aviation Museum as indeed Millom is and will become with the expansion plans afoot.

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Recent pics, notice the 5 bladed prop.

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/cgi-bin...T;f=34;t=36296
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Recent pics, notice the 5 bladed prop.

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/cgi-bin...T;f=34;t=36296
In pursuing five bladed propellers, I came across this 'secret' airfield in Alaska with Skyvans and Providers! You are not allowed to go there, be warned.

http://www.oldwings.nl/content/ak77/ak77.htm
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NEAM have a Shorts 330, and its easy to see how it comes apart since alot of the panels are off...

Pop over to Sunderland and take as much time as you need to study it. Ours is ex-gill airways G-OGIL, which has the unfortunate accolade of being the only SWEPT WING 330....

It was taxied into the hangar literally, and the wings took mpost of the force resulting in a bent spar. 3 degree sweep back which of course wrote it off...
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Shorts Skyvan

Looking at the photo of the 330 at Blackpool I am sure it is in Gill Airways later colour scheme, as a guess its previous registration might have been G-BHHU.
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